women in horror, the legend continues
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sockkpuppett (Luminosity) and sisabet made for Vividcon - the theme is the depiction of women in Supernatural, and the song they used is "Violet" by Hole (which should tell you in what direction the video's going). It's extremely graphic - but of course this was all on the CW - and potentially triggery. It's called "Women's Work."
As I don't watch Supernatural, I defer tocofax7 for some extra words: "I've been aware for the entire time I've watched the show that there were problems with the presentation of women, but this vid really provides the ammunition for that argument. Because even if the male deaths total the same number (which I don't know), the fact is that they are filmed entirely differently: they are clothed, the camera doesn't linger on them, they're not swimming, in bed, in bedclothes, bathing. Women in peril are sexy, and in a different way than the Winchesters in peril. Dean on his knees is sexy not because he is in peril, but because we know he's going to get up and kick ass in just a moment, because the show has identified him as the Hero. Whereas none of the women have that protection in the text." More commentary on sisabet's LJ here.
sockkpuppett (Luminosity) and sisabet made for Vividcon - the theme is the depiction of women in Supernatural, and the song they used is "Violet" by Hole (which should tell you in what direction the video's going). It's extremely graphic - but of course this was all on the CW - and potentially triggery. It's called "Women's Work."As I don't watch Supernatural, I defer to
cofax7 for some extra words: "I've been aware for the entire time I've watched the show that there were problems with the presentation of women, but this vid really provides the ammunition for that argument. Because even if the male deaths total the same number (which I don't know), the fact is that they are filmed entirely differently: they are clothed, the camera doesn't linger on them, they're not swimming, in bed, in bedclothes, bathing. Women in peril are sexy, and in a different way than the Winchesters in peril. Dean on his knees is sexy not because he is in peril, but because we know he's going to get up and kick ass in just a moment, because the show has identified him as the Hero. Whereas none of the women have that protection in the text." More commentary on sisabet's LJ here.
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Date: 2010-06-22 06:12 pm (UTC)It's interesting, this show and Lost come up in my head a lot about how TV interacts with the notion of God, and in both shows, it seems that the producers and writers think that God is a man, not masculine in aspect, but a may-uhn, and that, as I judge them, he's kind of a shitty man.
There is a part of me that really wants to interact with that trope somehow, in some form of fiction or game design - the posable/disposable way women get treated in horror (especially in horror).
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Date: 2010-06-22 07:10 pm (UTC)The thing is, it's a very tricky thing to even interact with b/c of the very nature of the problem.