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intertribal ([personal profile] intertribal) wrote2010-06-22 11:19 am

women in horror, the legend continues

This is a 2007 video that [livejournal.com profile] sockkpuppett (Luminosity) and [livejournal.com profile] sisabet made for Vividcon - the theme is the depiction of women in Supernatural, and the song they used is "Violet" by Hole (which should tell you in what direction the video's going).  It's extremely graphic - but of course this was all on the CW - and potentially triggery.  It's called "Women's Work."


As I don't watch Supernatural, I defer to [livejournal.com profile] cofax7 for some extra words: "I've been aware for the entire time I've watched the show that there were problems with the presentation of women, but this vid really provides the ammunition for that argument. Because even if the male deaths total the same number (which I don't know), the fact is that they are filmed entirely differently: they are clothed, the camera doesn't linger on them, they're not swimming, in bed, in bedclothes, bathing. Women in peril are sexy, and in a different way than the Winchesters in peril. Dean on his knees is sexy not because he is in peril, but because we know he's going to get up and kick ass in just a moment, because the show has identified him as the Hero. Whereas none of the women have that protection in the text."  More commentary on [livejournal.com profile] sisabet's LJ here.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2010-06-22 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I only saw one episode of the show. They axed two women in a pretty bullshit, throwaway manner. The only two women in the episode.

It's interesting, this show and Lost come up in my head a lot about how TV interacts with the notion of God, and in both shows, it seems that the producers and writers think that God is a man, not masculine in aspect, but a may-uhn, and that, as I judge them, he's kind of a shitty man.

There is a part of me that really wants to interact with that trope somehow, in some form of fiction or game design - the posable/disposable way women get treated in horror (especially in horror).

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2010-06-22 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That actually reminds me that there is a song called "The Devil You Know (God Is A Man)" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRbBYVR69X8). I only know it from Buffy.

The thing is, it's a very tricky thing to even interact with b/c of the very nature of the problem.