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I think a lot of fandom really hates women. Fangirls are especially rabid. It should come as no surprise that the more delusional ones hate the women their beloved men have been written into marrying - but I must admit, I did not expect these fangirls' solution to be eliminating women entirely. I expected them to craft better, more perfect women as replacements - oh no. Women have lost their right to be associated with men, for they are stupid, cruel creatures, white sepulchers.
See: An Empire Reborn, a story by this chick (loves Brokeback Mountain!* Surprise! hates the fandom's main female character! Surprise!). When a story comes with this kind of disclaimer -
The story, by the way, uses phrases like "They can have you torn limb from limb and sucked out of the womb in pieces". And "slaughter".
Oh my god you guys. Women kill babies. Women are teh evil. Men are noble! Men = LOVE.
[caveat: the only good women are women who carry their babies to term, and if they really don't want the adorable little suckers, give them away to a deserving but infertile rich couple, like in Juno!]
Reminds me of my 9th-grade English teacher explaining our school mascots (the Spartans) to us: "Women were considered inferior. They were only there to produce children. For men, real relationships could only be had with men, who were their intellectual equals." (paraphrased, obviously - although it forbade me from ever taking a movie like 300 seriously, and made the fact that wrestling was so popular among the boys of our school hilarious as hell)
So while I was mulling over the question of why so many fangirls hate female characters (and yet do not seem to hate themselves, and will in fact sometimes place themselves into their stories, if anything to end up with the only male character that they like, whom they will allow to be heterosexual.), and find the female characters "unworthy" of their canon husbands, this song came on:
"Peron's Latest Flame". Change "Peron" to any male character with a canon girlfriend/wife, and you've got the fangirl's theme song.
* - I too liked Brokeback Mountain. I do not, however, fetishize it.
See: An Empire Reborn, a story by this chick (loves Brokeback Mountain!* Surprise! hates the fandom's main female character! Surprise!). When a story comes with this kind of disclaimer -
"The depiction of abortion by the characters in this story does not reflect the author’s political attitudes toward the procedure. The sole intention is to create an interesting conflict between the characters and pave the way for a male/male relationship between the two main characters. No offense is intended towards those in favor of the practice or towards women who have gotten abortions"- I should have known not to read it. Well, I read it anyway, because I wanted to see if I was right, and I was right.
The story, by the way, uses phrases like "They can have you torn limb from limb and sucked out of the womb in pieces". And "slaughter".
Oh my god you guys. Women kill babies. Women are teh evil. Men are noble! Men = LOVE.
[caveat: the only good women are women who carry their babies to term, and if they really don't want the adorable little suckers, give them away to a deserving but infertile rich couple, like in Juno!]
Reminds me of my 9th-grade English teacher explaining our school mascots (the Spartans) to us: "Women were considered inferior. They were only there to produce children. For men, real relationships could only be had with men, who were their intellectual equals." (paraphrased, obviously - although it forbade me from ever taking a movie like 300 seriously, and made the fact that wrestling was so popular among the boys of our school hilarious as hell)
So while I was mulling over the question of why so many fangirls hate female characters (and yet do not seem to hate themselves, and will in fact sometimes place themselves into their stories, if anything to end up with the only male character that they like, whom they will allow to be heterosexual.), and find the female characters "unworthy" of their canon husbands, this song came on:
"Peron's Latest Flame". Change "Peron" to any male character with a canon girlfriend/wife, and you've got the fangirl's theme song.
[Che:] Could there be in our fighting corps a lack of enthusiasm forMan, I love misogynists. Especially when they're female. I'm going to go watch Embodiment of Fire now. Peace.
[Army:] Exactly!
[Che:] Peron's latest flame?
[Army:] You said it brother!
[Che:] Should you wish to cause great distress in the tidiest officer's mess, just mention her name
[Army:] That isn't funny!
Peron is a fool, breaking every taboo, installing a girl in the army H.Q. - and she's an actress, the last straw!
Her only good parts are between her thighs, she should stare at the ceiling, not reach for the skies
Or she could be his last whore
The evidence suggests she has other interests
If it's her who's using him, he's exceptionally dim
Bitch! Dangerous Jade!
She should get into her head, she should not get out of bed
She should know that she's not paid to be loud but to be laid
Slut! Dangerous Jade!
* - I too liked Brokeback Mountain. I do not, however, fetishize it.
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Date: 2008-02-10 02:38 am (UTC)What's Embodiment of Fire?
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Date: 2008-02-10 05:58 am (UTC)Embodiment of Fire is my favorite DBZ episode ever. I'm not sure I'd spend $50 on it, but you know, I might.
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Date: 2008-02-10 10:18 am (UTC)Basically, I hate the social construction of women. I hate that women take it up as their identity. I hate that they do it to themselves. I hate the economic construction of women, which is tied up with the first thing, of course. I hate the domestic sphere, the bedding to marry (and oh, those feminine romantic dreams are just fodder for women's role in society...). I hate the imbuing of meaning into every little thing around them, because they're so caught up in their image or their home or whatever. Not that I couldn't bitch about men, too, or that no men are caught up in their 'image' but in a distinctly different way, and it's these things that are particular to women precisely because of their historical role that are the ones I end up hating.
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Date: 2008-02-10 07:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-11 06:19 am (UTC)(somehow i missed this comment earlier)
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Date: 2008-02-11 06:21 am (UTC)