intertribal: (if the bible tells you so)
First up, we've got the "no duh" revelation by some guy at the New York Times that American Vietnam War fiction is not, in fact, popular in Vietnam!  Steinglass writes: "It shouldn’t have been so hard to find Vietnamese who could talk about O’Brien. He is, after all, a seminal Ameri­can novelist of the Vietnam War."  Man, Steinglass cracks me up.  Then again, my transformative moment came watching a documentary where this old woman in Vietnam were like, "Why would we hate you (Americans)?  We won the war."  I actually do like quite a few Vietnam stories (my favorite movie is Apocalypse Now), but I'm aware that my American-ness colors that opinion.

Moon Rat, aka Editorial Ass, gets asked about the gender of the main characters of the books she acquires for edits.  Do girls write books with female MCs?  (I don't).  Do girls read books with female MCs?  (I don't).  Kind of interesting to read the comments.  We've got things like "If [the book category is] adult and it's witty, MC's tend to be female" and "don't feel bad about acquiring all female MC's. You're balancing things out--helping readers get over their sexism one protag at a time! ;-)"  and "do you think there is a prejudice regarding women writers writing male protags?"  If so, FUCK.

Speaking of fuck, I really enjoyed this post about obscenities in writing.  In the narrative voice?  In dialogue?  Certain words off-limits?  Loss of "fire power"?  There are a few classist calamities in the comments over yonder ("it's a real turn-off for me, particularly since she seems a well educated and well-brought-up girl", Charles Dickens never swore, etc.).  I've definitely noticed that the profanity in my writing has increased as I've started swearing more.  I was so happy when I relocated the novel to a setting where people would still use my kind of curse words.  Related: [livejournal.com profile] winterfox's review of Richard Morgan's The Steel Remains.  Related Related: Torque Control's interview with Richard Morgan, where the comments get into a weird tangent about whether "frak" means Battlestar Galactica doesn't have balls or basic realism (I guess Richard Morgan doesn't watch non-premium cable...).

On the other end of the spectrum (maybe), I really wanted this article wondering where all the Christian writers went to be good.  It's kind of... melodramatic in a dull way and doesn't seem to know where it's going.  I wanted an article about Christian themes and Christian representations in books being published today, not which dead writer was exiled by which church and why.  But eh.  I offer it.

And finally, a post from last year by Jim Hines about rape in fiction.  The comments are really, really interesting - and all over the place.  On the one hand we've got "I can't think of an example where rape was handled well," and "I... put the book down, because I read for fun and escapism, and as soon as somebody gets raped, I'm not having fun anymore" [that comment made me :( in real life].  On the other hand we've got "I've read far too many posts on LJ, writer's mailing lists and articles aimed at writers that flat out state there is never a place for sexual assault in a book or story... Many people don't think rape should be part of fiction at all. I worry about that as well. Hiding from an issue and not addressing it as writers or readers isn't going to make it go away."  Guess which one I agree with???  Anyways, if these comments are any indication, I will probably make a lot of enemies halfway through book 2.  And it makes me wonder if I should back off, but I already know I won't.

Title from the opening of "Aisha" by Death In Vegas.  I always think I should introduce myself to my characters that way: "I have a portrait on my wall.  He's a serial killer.  I thought he wouldn't escape - Aisha, he got out."
intertribal: (but the levy was dry)
This is such a great exercise in social norms.

So, some web site, MoviesOnline.CA, publishes a very poorly written list of "Top 10 Truly Disturbing Films."  The writer's name is Michael.  Michael has some pithy statements prefacing his list: "I am not a fan of gore and I am not a fan of films like HOSTEL which for me are nothing but torture porn. Gore for the sake of gore does nothing for me but movies with intricate stories and truly disturbing content and messages not only resonate with me but leave me truly terrified."  Okay then.  His list is supposed to be "Disturbing films that offer enticing stories, great characters, and most of all a truly terrifying experience."

Okay, great.  Supposedly he's watched thousands of movies and owns all this horror and all that.  The list:

Blindness ("stunningly well done," "shocking and fantastic")
Jack Ketchum's The Girl Next Door ("disturbing and emotional," "will definitely leave you feeling violated")
Frontieres ("
a far superior film to High Tension")
Last House on the Left remake ("brutal," "brutal")
Jack Ketchum's The Lost ("all that more disturbing," "extremely disturbing")

Inside (
"With the exception of an extremely flawed ending INSIDE... has an extremely graphic and brutal ending")
Teeth ("Dark and well written its a film you will chuckle at and wince.")
Hard Candy ("intense and dark")
Martyrs ("
one of the most intense and intelligent films I have ever seen," "one of the most disturbing and well done films I have ever seen")
Deadgirl ("
intelligent and extremely dark film that is both disturbing and entrancing")

Here's the thing about his list.  4 out of 10 (Last House, Teeth, Hard Candy, Deadgirl) are basically rape-revenge movies.  Another is straight-up rape (Girl Next Door).  Blindness is a crap shoot, somewhere between the two.  That's 6.  Frontiers teeters on the brink of rape-revenge.  That's 7.  The Lost, Inside, and Martyrs all feature women being murdered or tortured.  I know that everybody's got their own squick factor, but geez.  Now that is a homogeneous list. 

If we must go down rape road, at least do something deeper than psychos + victim = brutality + vengeance, eh?  Move beyond the voyeurism and the pathetic attempts at moral cleansing?  Get a little introspective, perhaps?  Where is Irreversible?  Straw Dogs?  A Clockwork Orange?  Salo?  Oh, wait, men are violated in Salo as well, never mind.  There's not even a Lars Von Trier in this lot - and Von Trier actually tries to go somewhere new with misogyny.  I've seen Blindness and Frontiers.  They're both awful.  Bloody Awwwful.  Blindness is grotesque, but not well-done.  Frontiers is not disturbing or well-done.  Both are illogical and annoying.  The only two I'd want to see on that list are Inside and Martyrs.  Each notable because they feature women torturing women. 

He also remarks on Girl Next Door that "most films of this nature I would find highly offensive."   Right.  He then asks his readers what movies "left you feeling violated."  Right.

As one of the commenters said, "Eraserhead??!?"  Yes, indeed.  Where IS Eraserhead?  In fact, David Lynch is nowhere to be found!  David Lynch!  Also notably missing is Takashi Miike (!!), or anyone else on the Asia Extreme circuit (Has this guy heard of Ebola?  The Guinea Pig series?  Oldboy?  Battle Royale?).  I suppose Philosophy of the Knife and Cannibal Holocaust are "torture porn" (not enough rape?).  Political disturbance is out the window too, apparently, as Triumph of the Will and Birth of a Nation are MIA.  Some would also make the case for The Exorcist or Jacob's Ladder.  Believe it or not, there are other social norms out there!  Humanity's scope of experience does encompass things beyond rape-revenge!

I don't object to depicting violence or sexual violence on screen, on page, on the radio.  God knows I don't.  In fact, I'm a proponent of showing more violence, because censorship clearly hasn't gotten us anywhere.  Of course it's generally unpleasant to watch a character be tortured.  But don't mistake a scene featuring "attractive women being violated by perverse sickos" as an automatic transcendent level of human disturbance.  Sexual violence is prevalent in the world, and in history.  Violence practically comes standard.  What makes a movie or a book or a music video disturbing is not "unflinching brutality" - that stuff you just slough off with water.  It's the stuff that happens in between, the stuff it does to you.  Where's the catharsis?  What happens next?  And let's be honest.  You wanna watch another?  You feel guilty?  You feel scared?  What?  Why does Last House On The Left, of all things, keep you up at night? 

The ultraviolence in Clockwork Orange terrified me, yes.  But what scarred me for life was this: my family members laughing during the rape scenes, and the depiction of Alex as some kind of hero.  I think our friend Michael was only honest with Teeth ("the next minute you are groaning. Especially if you are a male.") and Inside ("I have two children and at the time my youngest was only a month old so I could not stomach the idea of watching this film").  At any rate, this notion that rape in and of itself is the most disturbing, brutal, stay-with-you-for-years-and-haunt-your-dreams thing that can possibly be shown on celluloid is small-minded and hard to believe and suspicious, quite frankly. 

I'm also going to take a moment to point out that the list seems to have been compiled for the sole purpose of putting up classically enticing women-in-peril movie stills.  In case we were still in doubt.

So what is this?  Personal hang-up?  A serious case of an emaciated movie repertoire (and this guy's a movie REVIEWER)?  Or an example of a wider psychosis?  I'm just gonna leave this here: A Whole Lot of Poor Judgment.

And spare me the bullshit.
intertribal: (busy)

The God Save Roman Polanski Movement is in full swing:

Jack Lang, a former French culture minister, said that for Europeans the development showed that the American system of justice had run amok.

While Mr. Polanski had committed “a grave crime,” Mr. Lang said, “he is a great creator and artist, and there’s a sentiment here that pursuing someone for a crime committed 30 years ago, in which the victim has decided to drop the case, is unreasonable, a kind of judicial lynching. In Europe, it would be unimaginable to punish someone in a situation like this.

“Sometimes the American justice system shows an excess of formalism,” Mr. Lang said, “like an infernal machine that advances inexorably and blindly. It sometimes lacks equity and humanity.”

And they're going to plead their case to Hillary?  This Hillary?  Good fucking luck.  I hope she roasts them like marshmallows.  And I don't even like Hillary.
intertribal: (or do I owe her an apology)
"In fanfiction, there are a lot of characters who can be turned into rapists. It takes more effort to portray some of them as rapists convincingly than others, but I'm sure it can be done. However, you may want to think twice if you want to write a story where a usually nice person becomes one."

A) Hello black and white character sketches, my old friend.

B) Define nice!  

C) Define rape!

Then again, sometimes I think all my main characters can be defined as rapists, so, yeah, apparently I'm taking the George R. R. Martin / Marion Zimmer Bradley approach.  Sometimes I also think my actual goal is to make people hate all my characters.  I clearly have issues with certain characters.  And rape.  I'm pretty sure there's something wrong with me. 

But see, this is the kind of statement that I agree with:

"I have to admit I am puzzled by your feelings about rape used as a plot device. You seem to be sick of it’s existance, sick of it used to drive a story forward. I guess I understand that…sort of.

I guess I think that if it keeps coming up, then this is playing in peoples subconscious, they are trying to make sense of it. Some of them are doing a good job of portraying the “absolute horror of rape” and some are doing a terrible job of portraying that, or anything, in a way that resembles real life.

I put the “absolute horror” of rape in quotes, because sometimes rape is an absolute horror, sometimes it is merely a frightening, life altering experience, sometimes it leaves people maimed and deformed, and sometimes it leaves people confused and seeking.

I think it’s a waste of time to talk about censoring storytelling, however. Instead, we should work towards making our society less violent as a whole. We have violent rapes in this country because we live in a society the glorifies violence and does not glorify the elimination of poverty or injustice."

And I really don't understand statements like this:

"Then, all of a sudden, they started losing the magic a bit (it’s still better than most things on air right now, IMO) and into that there was suddenly a massive fallback on the same old rape threat. The three of four main female characters who were threatened with rape were all subjected to this within the space of one season. It was just vile. The fact is that BSG is a dark show so the rapes themselves don’t fairly represent the show’s general attitude towards women. 

Anyway, I thought I’d weigh in here as BSG is in my top couple of favourite shows and I love feminist analysis of the show. It’s really goddamn low what the writers/creators did to the great female characters last season."

I just.  What?  I don't understand.  I honestly feel reading this whole discussion that they really don't want rape depicted in any way.  Ever.  (For that matter, I sometimes wonder if women are better off just never being mentioned, that way they can never be represented incorrectly)  So much hysteria. 

Then again I've never understood the idea of a "plot device".  I mean, anything can be defined as a "plot device", right?  Murder is a plot device, is that okay?  Everything that's in the plot, everything that advances the plot, is part of the plot.  You can argue about whether the author depicted it correctly, but the accusation of "plot device!!"... like, yeah, characters are plot vehicles, I mean, what do you want?  It's fiction.  

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