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intertribal ([personal profile] intertribal) wrote2011-05-25 12:06 pm

The Gifted and The Damned

Okay, laughing a bit at all the people vigorously claiming that AMC's The Killing isn't a Twin Peaks rip-off.  Granted, it's a remake of a Danish show that I haven't seen, so either the Danish show is ripping off Twin Peaks and the American show is ripping off a rip off, or the American show is ripping off Twin Peaks all by itself.  Yes, there's the ridiculously ripped-off tagline, but the point of no return for me was the scene where the dead girl's father finds out that his daughter is dead while he's on the phone with his wife, who's at home in the kitchen.  It is sad and dramatic (the dad does the whole Mystic River thing, the mother is screaming at home).  But it felt so very "done before" to me because, look:


That scene (with Grace Zabriskie as the mother) was sort of the defining moment in Twin Peaks' pilot, and I could not believe that The Killing did something so similar.

So when I read reviews like "What really stands out for me, in this age of cookie-cutter procedurals, is how The Killing dramatizes the devastation a violent death has on a family, a community, on the people involved in the investigation" and "not as much about a young girl's murder as it is a psychological study of what happens afterward, how a tight-knit community tries to recover and how a dead child's mother, father and siblings learn to deal with their pain in their own private ways" my reaction is, have you seen Twin Peaks?  I get that two shows can be aiming to do something similar but not only is the approach the same, it's practically the same dead water-logged high school girl, secret life and flings with the town's most powerful grown men and BFF and inconstant boyfriend and all.  But no demon.  Which is a shame.

Cuz it's the tone of The Killing that really sets it apart from Twin Peaks.  It's basically Twin Peaks minus the humor and minus the supernatural.  It's all grim, all the time, with no moments of insanity or absurdity.  I do like the lead actress and the subversive undercover cop (the closest thing this show has to a break from the mundane, grim norm), and it's certainly not bad in any technical way, but it's nothing special.  Twin Peaks is special, and it's actually its particular supernatural trappings that make it so.  Randomly inserting people that happen to be vampires and werewolves clearly does nothing for a show; what I mean by supernatural trappings is Twin Peaks' embrace of the truly not-natural and not-normal and not-scientifically-objective, the "half light" in between spaces and times and states of consciousness/rationality, if you will.  And that stuff is not uniformly anything.  It's definitely not uniformly gloomy.  Like the dreams and the death omens and love and unusual ways of grieving and people who talk to inanimate objects and fish-coffee and secret government projects and inhabiting spirits all that "other" crap that's a part of human experience and human understanding.  Watching Twin Peaks was like finding a kindred spirit, for me.

On the other hand, I was watching Luther the other day - a BBC show with only six episodes in its first season - and while it doesn't have the same sort of prestige touch as The Killing and has been received poorly by the British press, it's the more interesting crime show IMO.  For one, it has Idris Elba as the lead (and yes, this is the main reason I started watching).  For two, it has a serial killer named Alice Morgan who's the self-described matter-destroying black hole to Elba's bright sun.  She kills her parents in the first episode but because there's no proof she's free to go, and she's like this recurring narcissistic ghoul that sort of tries to help Idris Elba's character resolve his personal problems but goes about everything very badly - Alice is great.  My favorite episode was the fourth, and actually it wasn't either of them that made that episode - it was Nicola Walker, who played the wife of a man she thinks is a recovering small-time crook but is actually a serial killer.  The scene where she finds out what her husband's done in a police investigation room is great in a way that Grace Zabriskie's Twin Peaks scene is great, though of course with very different emotions on display.  And Nicola Walker's ending... well, you can see what she does in this fanvid, although it doesn't do her justice.  She was a great emotional pivot.

[identity profile] moveslikegiallo.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're the first person I've seen say that Luther is worth watching (and that The Killing is anything less than perfect and amazing). Huh. I'm actually now more interested in seeing both of them...

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, it's not like The Killing is really flawed in anything except one-note-ness and a lack of originality. And Luther is kind of hokey, but I think if it's not for you, you can tell right away, at least.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
all that "other" crap that's a part of human experience and human understanding.

Yes--this stuff that's part of human experience and human understanding, that's in plain view, that so often people fail to mention.

.... I don't know anything about the show (clarification: I know all about Twin Peaks but nothing about this other show). But that, what you said there, had me nodding vigorous.

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think that's what I really like about David Lynch. I feel like he gets at a more complete range of what it means to have a human mind and the different types of people that exist. Or maybe I'm just nuts, that's possible too.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Or both. "Nuts" is part of the human range. (But I don't think you're nuts--or not any more nutty than I and a lot of other people I know)

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that ain't saying much! :P

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL--welcome to the good ship Lunatic.

[identity profile] cafenowhere.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, I was considering Luther just the other night. I'll give it a shot.

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be curious to know what you think.

[identity profile] wendigomountain.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
In the realm of grim, there's a show that aired on the BBC called Red Riding. It was a trilogy about the Yorkshire Ripper murders, and some hinky shit involving sewing swan wings onto the victims. Brutal, gritty, and realistic. Some powerful film making. I just figured the Killing writers were ripping it off. Here's a trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx5rqw9tXB8

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried Red Riding a while ago, but got bored of it. I mean, the point of this post is that endless "brutal, gritty, and realistic" is neither my cup of tea nor really all that realistic in the grand scheme of things.

[identity profile] wendigomountain.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to sound like a schmuck, Nadia, but I watched the first movie and figured I'd put off the other two until I just felt too happy to go on and needed to knock myself down a couple pegs. :)

I wasn't a fan of Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me, finding the incest bit Waaaay too much. But I did like the series, for the same odd, quirky moments that I loved Northern Exposure and Key West.

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2011-05-25 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I watch Intervention for those purposes. Seriously, you get movies like Monster that are about incredibly grim subject material and they're not as one-note and as devoid of humor as The Killing. It's downright weird to me. I'll defend the right of grimdark to exist, but I don't buy it as truth.

I haven't seen Fire Walk With Me - I also thought TP deteriorated during the second season, but what was great about it was so great that I forgave the parts I didn't like.