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[intertribal]

The title is my reaction to Indiana Jones: The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.  The above is also my reaction to every Indiana Jones movie, so I guess if you like Indiana Jones, you'll like it.

Let me just say though, that as someone who watched 9 FUCKING seasons of the X-Files, this sanitized, Americanized, and abridged version in 2 1/2 hours and M&Ms packaging just feels like a smack in the fucking face.

+ : every time Indiana Jones fails at something. 
- : every time Indiana Jones succeeds at something.
best character: crazy professor man + mutt
worst character: marion ravenwood + indiana jones
best impossibility: Indiana Jones gets pulled out of a sand trap by holding onto a snake that is somehow able to hold his entire weight!
worst impossibility: Indiana Jones survives a nuclear explosion by hiding in a refrigerator and doesn't die of cancer in three weeks!

Comments

[intertribal.livejournal.com]

Also, because this is bothering me - this whole statement you're making has nothing to do with minority/working class pedigree. At all.

"it's horribly racist to say that just because someone is not white means they will have a particular opinion on these issues" - this to me, is what the fuck, because I did not say that at all, and you completely made that up.

This goes back to the idea of namedropping, right? Ok. I don't associate namedropping with being white or hegemonic or anything. What I meant by saying that I felt it was arrogant and that there were people who would agree with me is that I felt it was elitist and over-intellectual, and anybody can do that. And by "other people who would agree with me" I mean my friends who dislike it when people namedrop in class. The particular backgrounds of the people you're namedropping has nothing to do with the namedropping itself.

And a "minority pedigree" of people who agree with your position on issues of race has NOTHING AT ALL to do with what I said about namedropping and people who would agree with me, because that's entirely related to classroom politics.

I know I should leave this alone but this whole argument is entirely misplaced.

And of course there are minorities who would agree with you on issues of race. Bill Cosby, for example.

[royinpink.livejournal.com]

Sorry. Again, part of the "overreacting." It seemed to me you were suggesting here:

"[. . .] you and your authors and Steve saying that comes across as something the hegemons are telling the subalterns to keep them from complaining too loudly. Yes, still and yet, that's how it comes across, and I guarantee if I showed this conversation (which I wouldn't) to my friends who are poor minorities, that's how it would come across."

that the authors I was citing were all WASPy, well-off, hegemonic ones, and that all "poor minorities" would see them in exactly the same way. But I know I overreacted to your comment here.

I can't help but disagree about namedropping necessarily being arrogant. It can be, but it doesn't have to be. Like I said, I could just as easily name-drop a punk band (Crass), and both the band and the academic names are part of things I like and where this viewpoint comes from, which I was just trying to explicitly acknowledge. I hate it when people in class use names or departments (if they are a different major than the course they're taking) as an excuse to not have anyone be able to contradict them on what they're saying (and usually when they do so they invariably misrepresent the departments/authors they bring up). If you saw me as doing that, I'm sorry. I didn't mean for that to happen. I am willing to talk about what I think, or what I take from any of the authors I mentioned, I just wanted to be clear about what reasons/background I had for taking the position I did. Sometimes people in class do this as well, to make clear their trying to argue a Marxist analysis or that they're trying to describe something analogous to Bourdieu's definition of symbolic capital or symbolic violence, or bring up their thesis research if it's relevant, etc. I see nothing wrong with this, and sometimes their perspective is more helpful and enlightening for the academic experience they have, but I can see where I didn't really explain what I was taking from those authors, so to that degree it's my fault, although if you asked me, I would.

I was calling it a "minority pedigree" to mock the idea that I was talking about a pedigree of "Great and Important People" who were part of the hegemonic viewpoint. I think the whole point is ridiculous, as I wasn't trying to drop a pedigree from anywhere, but clearly, I misunderstood you about name-dropping, so I'm sorry this was misplaced. I gladly take it back.

I'm not sure Bill Cosby would agree with me.

[intertribal.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I see how you would get that impression, and that was part of my overreacting.

I think the namedropping thing is just us having different ways of talking about things, as I am very used to not doing that, and I'm glad you agree about people just using things from other classes to get around having an actual point is annoying, which is really what annoys me most, and I think I was taking out my frustration with Columbians on you, and I'm sorry for that.

Bill Cosby would totally agree with you. Maybe. I don't really know. I just know what Leonard Pitts was citing about him.

[royinpink.livejournal.com]

"I think the namedropping thing is just us having different ways of talking about things, as I am very used to not doing that"

That's probably true. Maybe this is different at Reed, too--I wouldn't know.

"and I'm glad you agree about people just using things from other classes to get around having an actual point is annoying, which is really what annoys me most, and I think I was taking out my frustration with Columbians on you, and I'm sorry for that."

It's cool. Probably wasn't the smartest thing for me to do. When I first read this, I thought you meant Columbia the country (which i realize is spelled with an O, but yeah), not the school, and I was like wtf? Fortunately, that interpretation made no sense.

I don't really know enough about what Bill Cosby thinks to say, don't even know what Leonard Pitts cited about him. I might agree with him on some points...