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intertribal ([personal profile] intertribal) wrote2008-05-24 06:54 pm
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turistas go home!

The title is my reaction to Indiana Jones: The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.  The above is also my reaction to every Indiana Jones movie, so I guess if you like Indiana Jones, you'll like it.

Let me just say though, that as someone who watched 9 FUCKING seasons of the X-Files, this sanitized, Americanized, and abridged version in 2 1/2 hours and M&Ms packaging just feels like a smack in the fucking face.

+ : every time Indiana Jones fails at something. 
- : every time Indiana Jones succeeds at something.
best character: crazy professor man + mutt
worst character: marion ravenwood + indiana jones
best impossibility: Indiana Jones gets pulled out of a sand trap by holding onto a snake that is somehow able to hold his entire weight!
worst impossibility: Indiana Jones survives a nuclear explosion by hiding in a refrigerator and doesn't die of cancer in three weeks!

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
and of course if it weren't the hegemonic viewpoint, and someone made the Indiana Jones movie, it wouldn't be accepted in the same way, or really have much influence except for those who wanted to criticize, or be alternative, or whatever...

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
Right, which is part of the reason I don't think Spielberg is a great director. I think he's really great at tapping into the hegemonic current and making a movie that just plays to it. So sometimes I like his movies and often times I don't. But he's never controversial, he never breaks new ground (except technically), and he never shifts anybody's paradigms. However he's extremely influential because he's very good at tapping into the hegemonic viewpoint, making loads of money, and getting rave reviews by the biggest, most mainstream critics. Then other movies see how successful he is and follow suit. That's all his influence is.

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm saying...not much really shifts anybody's paradigms. Stuff that doesn't play to the mainstream current ends up being for 'niche' audiences. But yeah, I suppose his influence on other movie-makers only makes it worse.

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
(I don't mean that actually changing your mind isn't possible, but the for the majority of audiences, it doesn't happen, and i'm not sure if movies are the best format for it to happen anyway...)

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
True, but that doesn't mean we can't try, and if anyone changes their minds, that's still something.

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
the easiest way to do it would be to actually change the underlying power structure. just sayin'.

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it wouldn't be the easiest way. You've said yourself MANY TIMES that it's near impossible to do it that way.

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
well, "easiest" in the sense of "most likely to actually work." actually easy to accomplish? certainly not.

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
most likely to actually work is not the definition of easiest.

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, then I take back easiest. in fact, i might just say that anything easy is guaranteed to just displace the problem.

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to say, easiest seemed very out of character for your entire argument.

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
i meant "simplest." related, but not the same.

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
well, I also disagree that that's true (that it's the simplest way). I think it's the ideal way.

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
but that's more like individual change than real social change. "i want more!"