http://intertribal.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] intertribal 2010-05-29 05:36 pm (UTC)

Well, for future reference, "docking someone 100 points" should be taken lightly. Like I said, when something really upsets me I tend to devote much more time and profanity to it. I probably could have said "docked 1 point" to communicate the whole "warning light" thing (I probably shouldn't consider people to be earning/losing points, but whatever), but it's like saying one movie is 48 million times better than another movie, it's sort of manic hyperbole.

I agree totally that patriarchy is the problem (and that patriarchy is bad for everyone). And hell, I'd also argue that colonialism and all the shit that went with that was also bad for everyone in the long-run (this is part of what I wrote my thesis on). I think if a woman gets offended by something a man says and just kind of rolls her eyes/stews silently, that's not productive. A lot of my problem with debates about race in the sf community on lj is that there's a lot of "talk to the hand" stuff, and then the offended person runs back to their home turf to bitch about the person doing the offense, when the person doing the offense often doesn't even know what the hell they did. That shit will not change anything. I'm a fan of being direct and being willing to discuss, although yeah, there are some people that it is hopeless with. But at least you will have tried. Nothing wrong with organized interactions, although sometimes I think what makes the difference for individual people is a personal interaction, not something that comes from the top down. I think top down stuff affects the next generation a lot more. But I don't know, I'm just kind of saying things.

Yeah, I see that, and to a certain extent I do see racial slurs as being more loaded (esp. certain slurs in America) because of the historical context of slavery and Jim Crow (like extremely systematic oppression) et al. I guess the only thing I would say is that if a man calls another man a cunt as a really, really big insult (not a term of endearment)(and same with "bitch"), is that implying "but for a boy to [act] like a girl is degrading, because you think that being a girl is degrading"? Cuz I'm not sure how useful that is, in terms of society and discrimination and all.

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