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intertribal ([personal profile] intertribal) wrote2009-08-12 06:26 pm
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"There's no plot. There's no conflict. There's no antagonist."

Reading Query Shark led me to realize that I did not know what Ilium's "conflict" was.

That can't be good.

from the wikipedia link

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
The Underground Man became a common character type in many of the works that followed the novella. He is present in Leo Tolstoy's Anna Karenina in the milder form of the character Nikolai Levin, in Anton Chekhov's Ward No. 6, Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man, Joseph Heller's Catch-22 as Yossarian the 28-year-old Army Air Corps Captain, and in Richard Wright's short story The Man Who Lived Underground.

Like many of Dostoevsky's novels, Notes from Underground was unpopular with Soviet literary critics due to its explicit rejection of socialist utopianism and its portrait of humans as irrational, uncontrollable, and uncooperative. His claim that human needs can never be satisfied even through technological progress, also goes against Marxist beliefs. Many existentialist critics, notably Jean-Paul Sartre, considered the novel to be a forerunner of existentialist thought and an inspiration to their own philosophies.

The philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche was very impressed with Dostoevsky, claiming that "Dostoevsky is one of the few psychologists from whom I have learned something," and that Notes from Underground "cried truth from the blood."[citation needed]

Re: from the wikipedia link

[identity profile] royinpink.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
actually, from the wikipedia link, i think i made it to somewhere around the beginning of the second segment of the second part...not that it matters much, but you know i'm neurotic about accuracy.

Re: from the wikipedia link

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I know.

Re: from the wikipedia link

[identity profile] intertribal.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting. Yossarian, huh? (I still can't believe that I thought Catch-22 was set in space based on what you copied for me to read... interesting that I always forget about that book nowadays)