See, this is why I didn't want to say it until now, although that's what I've been thinking for a long time. I'm sorry that you're taking this as an insult, and I'm sorry that I've insulted you (although you're right, I don't really think I have the power to insult you, but if you feel insulted I guess I do), but the fact that you're taking this as an insult says something as well, doesn't it? Anyway, okay, I am sorry I insulted you. I can be quick to throw things out there, and when you don't respond to them with belligerence I usually assume they had no impact.
And I truly felt that you were saying that I was irrational.
I do think you can have your own opinions. I doubt that you can really respect me because I am not a Great and Important Person, or one of your college friends who you've learned from. I haven't taught you anything and I feel like those (teachers) are the only people that you respect. I'm not saying that you can't respect me because you're white, I don't think that has anything to do with it. I don't even really expect you to respect me to be honest.
I don't think this is just a fundamental disagreement between two individuals. I guess that's a difference. I've said that I don't think people are just individuals, and I don't think we are either. I think it would just be wrong to assume that we are - and if you want, that you believe we are individuals and I don't is a fundamental disagreement between us, although now I'm getting twisted up. I think that we can try to "transcend" that, as you say, but I don't think we have. People come into every argument with biases, no one is a clean slate, and that's what the hegemon/subaltern thing is in this case, a bias.
"It's not about race, it's about power, and I don't know why you're giving it to me when you could just as easily treat yourself with the same respect any decent human being would" - well, why do you think I give you that power?
Okay, I'm insecure. This is just a last ditch effort to win an argument that I'm bound to lose. Whatever.
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And I truly felt that you were saying that I was irrational.
I do think you can have your own opinions. I doubt that you can really respect me because I am not a Great and Important Person, or one of your college friends who you've learned from. I haven't taught you anything and I feel like those (teachers) are the only people that you respect. I'm not saying that you can't respect me because you're white, I don't think that has anything to do with it. I don't even really expect you to respect me to be honest.
I don't think this is just a fundamental disagreement between two individuals. I guess that's a difference. I've said that I don't think people are just individuals, and I don't think we are either. I think it would just be wrong to assume that we are - and if you want, that you believe we are individuals and I don't is a fundamental disagreement between us, although now I'm getting twisted up. I think that we can try to "transcend" that, as you say, but I don't think we have. People come into every argument with biases, no one is a clean slate, and that's what the hegemon/subaltern thing is in this case, a bias.
"It's not about race, it's about power, and I don't know why you're giving it to me when you could just as easily treat yourself with the same respect any decent human being would" - well, why do you think I give you that power?
Okay, I'm insecure. This is just a last ditch effort to win an argument that I'm bound to lose. Whatever.