but...even the German phenomenology-descended social theorists imply that, and they pretty much believe in social determinism. social determinism of rational actors working to prevent the breakdown in social order that would lead us to some sort of Hobbesian human nature... What I think, is that their their theory only has part of it. Yes, we do that, we have the capacity for rational decision-making in this way. But we also have learned behavior, that works on a level prior to what we can rationalize. And we also have emotion, which is more complicated and harder to theorize. But we can tell I'm Peircean in theoretic background and therefore just created a trichotomy of pure feeling, versus force and reaction, versus relationships and signification.